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#1 User is offline   abajja 

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 12:26 PM

While revisiting some articles, I observed that some comments have been eliminated.
Is it an application error?
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Posted 04 September 2012 - 04:42 PM

Please give more details... like a wiki URL for example and if you remember the comment content...

On this regard the wiki system does show only the latest 20 comments... so if there are more than that the oldest are not shown...
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 01:52 AM

This wiki understanding-virtual-attributes-and-get-set-methods shows 13. It has more.
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 02:19 AM

Yes some comments are deleted on this wiki, I just returned your comment where you give a link to some concepts...

Other comments are of type "good catch", "you are the man", a non working solution, and a post with a link to a custom blog discussing the same thing as this wiki.
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 10:57 AM

Hmm...
I am afraid that this can be understood (or misunderstood) as censorship ... isn't it?

An invisble hand that judge what is good and what is not...
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 11:10 AM

Depends how you look at it :D

It's not invisible, it's the administrators and it's not censorship it's keeping the site comments clean
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Posted 06 September 2012 - 12:41 PM

Let's call it editorial. If comment is useful, it will be there for sure. That's all for better quality.
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Posted 08 September 2012 - 03:23 AM

The comments are not the problem; if they bother, give the reader a button to show or hide them. Better still, the comments bring some “intelligence” to the community: an article with a comment, even if it just says “good job...”, is somehow better than an article without any comment. Furthermore the comments are used to sort articles to ease some type of lectures…

The articles are public and anybody can give his opinion about them, this is the essence of a social networking.
So the problem is not there in the comments, the problem is with the articles themselves; how to improve their quality?

Note that any solution to this problem must take into consideration at least the following constraints:

  • Yii community is not a scientific organization, it is a social network.
  • Heterogeneous level of understanding the framework, the language php, …
  • Native an no native (potential) writer in the community.
  • Multiculturalism.
  • Everybody is encouraged to write about Yii and its ecosystem.

This list is without order and is not exhaustive.
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Posted 19 September 2012 - 02:48 AM

I agree with abajja! Many times comments add very interesting views as well as providing additional information about the article itself. It just does NOT make sense to display a maximum of 20 comments only and leave the rest hiding in database forever. There's plenty of articles where it would be quite useful to see older comments. Otherwise newer members of the community continue asking the very same questions (that had already been answered before) over and over again just because they can't see the oldest comments and potential answers anymore.

It's not such a big deal to add a "show more comments" ajax link at the bottom of the list, and/or add a link to an extra page to "show all comments" at once; or have tabs to show newest, oldest, best rated comments.
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Posted 19 September 2012 - 02:51 AM

The idea of a wiki is to edit the article itself... comments can be used to make a discussion about the main idea... but if something is important to the article itself it should be added to the article.. anybody can edit anyones wiki... that's the main point of a wiki itself.
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