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#41 User is offline   saegeek 

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 03:25 PM

I think the best skin is from JQuery UI.
Here is a Yii CMS that works with it :

http://www.web3cms.c...n/65/index.php/

user/password : admin/admin
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#42 User is offline   Raoul 

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:36 PM

just for information, a Foundation extension has been published today for Yii !

Here it is : Foundation Yii Extension

Didn't try it but seems promising ...
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Posted 11 April 2012 - 01:13 PM

I am definitely going to try it! :)
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Posted 12 April 2012 - 02:07 AM

I think we should consider the support of each css framework as well, for example bootstrap is for twitter and for sure twitter has a better support than foundation or anything else.
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Posted 12 April 2012 - 06:30 AM

To be frank: I really don't like Twitter.
And I prefer not to follow the sheep.

Kidding aside:
What makes you think that the developers of Twitter Bootstrap provides better support than the developers of Zurb Foundation?
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Posted 14 April 2012 - 11:56 PM

I have used bootstrap for our company website and I have to say at times its really difficult to customize.
For the next Project I will try zurb or probably skeleton, not sure right now. :)

To the Topic: I think for yii it would be best to ship with a choice of css frameworks or no default style at all and then let everyone pick what suits best. It would require to update the tutorial pages for newbies tho and show differences between the available choices.

my 2 cents,

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 10:54 AM

I think Yii really needs a nice and clean default interface also at error messages (CForms), cool buttons etc. something smooth and beautiful as default interface.

Why not a theme like the one from Haiku-OS:
https://www.haiku-os...ting_css_styles
http://www.haiku-os....icon-guidelines
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 06:27 AM

Here is a CSS file with many browser hacks :
http://pxtoem.com/#css

("Grab CSS" in the menu)
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Posted 26 May 2012 - 02:52 PM

There's a new kid in town: Gumby

It's a 960 fluid-fixed / responsive CSS framework with a nice consistent UI that reminds of Bootstrap —which I'm not sure it's the best idea, although it looks good imho.

Anyway: here it is: http://gumbyframework.com/
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Posted 27 May 2012 - 09:39 AM

View Postekerazha, on 05 November 2011 - 02:50 PM, said:

This looks like a nice Bootstrap alternative http://foundation.zu.../docs/index.php

Agreed, there is already an extension for this http://www.yiiframew...ion/foundation/
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Posted 27 May 2012 - 11:50 AM

View Postbennouna, on 26 May 2012 - 02:52 PM, said:

There's a new kid in town: Gumby


I like it. :)

It looks better than Foundation and Bootstrap, and it's leaner.
A very good reason to choose it.
"Less noise - more signal"
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Posted 29 May 2012 - 10:02 AM

Looks like there's a new CSS framework coming out every day..

Guess we'll have to wait till the dust settles and one or two framework emerge as the winner..
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Posted 29 May 2012 - 01:09 PM

The winner of what?
If it's popularity, there's no question about it: Bootstrap.
And the Yii team has chosen that one.

But, one important 'but': they've promised to make it easy to plug in whatever css framework we want.
And that's good enough for me.
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Posted 04 June 2012 - 11:10 AM

View Postjacmoe, on 29 May 2012 - 01:09 PM, said:

The winner of what?If it's popularity, there's no question about it: Bootstrap.And the Yii team has chosen that one.But, one important 'but': they've promised to make it easy to plug in whatever css framework we want.And that's good enough for me.

(emphasis mine)

That is all what I wanted to hear. Provide us with defaults but leave us free to choose.

I would like to go to tiny bit further, please.

Yii is a PHP framework. Not a JS or CSS one. I sincerely believe that the core team should concentrate on PHP, making it the most awesome framework out there.

It should provide us with defaults, currently jQuery and (probably) Bootstrap. But we should be able to replace those with what we want/need.

For my part, I want to do some experimentation with the Dojo tookit. And I'm sure there are people out there thinking about Mootools and some other JS framework.

Folks, these are truly exciting times. The number of CSS/JS frameworks are growing rapidly. We choose based on our needs and likes. The only one and true framework here is Yii. This is why We/I are/am here.

What I need from Yii:

  • Ease of use (most important!)
  • Speed
  • Lightweight
  • Power (when I need it... Right now, I'm making a 5 pages "vitrine", so I don't need it... But I do have a project...)


Just for example! Yii is a MVC PHP framework. It provides us with "view" pages". Why not use Dojo for the "V"? Everything that is shown to the user would come from Dojo. Everything else is provided by Yii as the backend. (didn't do it yet, just a thought for experiment).

I will love to read what you have to say about this.
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 05:36 PM

View Posttof, on 14 March 2012 - 02:11 AM, said:

Bootstrap 2 too, because I'm already use it (not sure that's a good argument Posted ImagePosted Image)
But, I think I'll look at foundation too. I just discover it with these topic and the other one in Yii 2 forum...

It would be great, if we could choose which CSS framework we want :
yiic webapp --skel=Foundation
yiic wepapp --skel=Bootstrap
yiic webapp --skel=BluePrint
yiic webapp --skel=UserContributedSkeletonUrl


with automatic downloading


That's the way to go. Yiiframework is a PHP framework. Not a JS/CSS one! I would love it if it could provide me with defaults so I can do fast prototyping but then, let me choose and let me do the "sugar" thinghies.

IMVHO, the Yii core team should concentrate on making our PHP framework easy to use, fast, lightweight and powerful, not giving us sugar candies (which is bad for you health!).

You build a 5 pages "vitrine"? Defaults are great. You just need to adjust colors and put a logo out there.

You build anything else "serious"?

You want your own stuff:

  • Semantic HTML, go for it (or not)!
  • your own CSS style (or some framework you like)
  • jQuery or Dojo Toolkit or MooTools or YUI or yours or whatever...


Something that will say you did it.

The only real foundation we use should be Yii.
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Posted 20 February 2013 - 07:26 AM

@jacmoe: The Skeleton CSS files are working great. Now I have the problem that when I define my grid and put all the div elements into it, there still seems a problem when yii tries to render table elements. They still overlap the border (s. image below) of the main container. Is there a way to avoid that?

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